if a tax reform bill passed tomorrow, if an immigration bill passed tomorrow, that's tens of billions of dollars in consulting, lobbying, messaging fees that are not going to be paid out. >> let's take one example. april 20th, 2010, the deepwater horizon oil well, oil rig, explodes in the gulf of mexico. 11 people killed, the largest marine spill in the history of the industry. oil gushes onto the seafloor for at least 84 days. you, leibovich, look at that crude oil flowing into the gulf, and you see an equally large flow of cash spreading across washington, covering our nation's capital to, as you say, "manage the crisis." now, tell us how they set about to manage that crisis. >> so, bp is in this whole heap of trouble, okay? they have this disaster that they are pegged with. the president looks powerless. i mean, what are you going to do? you have this awful calamity taking place. systematically bp is spending tens of millions of dollars to basically tie up the most prominent washington democratic and republican lobbyists, media consultants, ad people, to where you had an all-star r